Dev Journal: Hero Mounts

Hello everyone! Welcome to the second development journal for Age of Wonders III.

Before telling you about the brand new mount system in Age of Wonders III, let me make a quick introduction. My name is Godewijn and I am a designer for Triumph Studios for a little over a year now, and as such I am one of the ‘new people’ that joined this project.

Unlike what you might expect from someone who didn’t work on the prequels, I’m sometimes actually a bit more conservative than some of the longtime Age of Wonders developers. Reason for that is probably that I have been a huge fan of the series since the first Age of Wonders and (when time allows it) I still play Shadow Magic regularly with a friend.

You can imagine it was a dream come true to be able to work on the third installment! – Godewijn, Designer

The Hellhound is one of the fearsome mounts in Age of Wonders III

I should mention everything you see and read in these dev journals is work-in-progress. As we are still in the middle of development on Age of Wonders III a lot of things can change, both gameplay- and graphics-wise.

So let’s talk about those mounts!

Default Hero Mount Variations

As in previous games your heroes and leader will ride a mount. The default mount they get is based on their race. For example at the start you won’t have High Elves riding boars through the woods since boars are the preferred mount of Dwarves and the Elves prefer Unicorns.

These are the default mounts per race:
High Elves – Unicorn
Dwarves – Boar
Humans – Brown horse
Draconians – Raptor
Orcs – Black horse
Goblins – Warg

Default mounts don’t give your units special abilities and are purely cosmetic. This changes once you progress in the game and get access to special mounts.

Acquiring Special Mounts for your Hero

Unlike the default mounts, the special mounts are more than something purely visual. They have the ability to add bonuses to your hero or leader. The Nightmare mount for example will bestow Floating (faster movement) and the Bleak Warg will provide Arctic Walking.

Some of these special mounts are creatures like Fell Horses, Nightmares, Blight Tusk Boars, Bleak Wargs, Hell Hounds, Unicorn Sires and Red Raptors. You can swap them by using your inventory, as mounts are considered a special kind of item.

Leader with a Gryphon egg and mount ‘item’ equipped (Ice Wyvern).

We are thinking of adding more, like Dread Spider mounts, which would give your hero/leader the ability to climb walls with ease. At the same time we are careful with adding abilities to mounts so they don’t make other items worthless or become imbalanced.

So how can players obtain those mounts in the game? Well, you can obtain them as quest rewards or rewards for exploring structures.

Hatching Eggs

For the really special mounts you will need to start looking for eggs. Just like Daenerys Targaryen (the mother of dragons) in Game of Thrones, you will be able to find eggs and hatch them. This way you can get some awesome mounts. Maybe you’ll find a Gold Wyvern egg in an area fiercely guarded by Gold Wyverns.

Artwork of the various Wyverns

Eggs will be used only for the strongest of player mounts: Gold, Fire, Ice, Obsidian and Bone Wyverns and the Gryphon.
Once you find an egg you need to carry it with you for a certain amount of rounds before it gets hatched (no worries – your hero won’t need to sit on the egg). The mount resulting from that can be equipped as any mount and gives the hero/leader flying and increased vision on the World Map. Maybe even something extra as well.

Leader on a special mount (Red Raptor) attacking a hero on a Hell Hound (this is Work-In-Progress).

This is just one example of us trying to add flavor and improve on the earlier games. Is it needed? Perhaps not. Is it fun? We think so!

But it’s even more important what you think! Let us know in the attached forum thread. We’re looking forward to it!

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  • #6170

    Narvek
    Keymaster

    Hello everyone! Welcome to the second development journal for Age of Wonders III. Before telling you about the brand new mount system in Age of Wonder
    [See the full post at: Dev Journal II: Hero Mounts]

    #6172

    I would love to see some syron mounts

    #6174

    Sounds cool! More customization is always nice. =D

    #6176

    Red Key
    Member

    Wow this is unexpected and amazing. The new mounts are awesome and seem like a nice addition to the RPG elements of the game. The only thing that sounds weird is having a bone wyvern hatch from an egg unless the bone wyverns aren’t really undead. Keep up the great work!

    #6177

    Brother JO
    Member

    I don’t know even what to say… You made my day! 😀

    #6178

    Sordak
    Member

    now THATS awsome.
    I did not expect this. Alot of these things are of a calibre that youd expect in a full blown RPG, not a session based RTS game.

    Im absoluteley loving this.
    tho i gotta say the raptor is a bit huge compared to the hellhound.

    #6179

    I like it.
    Why not the old green and brown wyvern? Probably the brown is not particuary characteristic, but the green one back from Aow1 would have poison abilities, where gold have sacred ones (i suppose) bone-death, obsidian-earth, fire-… hem it explains itself.

    However i want back the old hand drawed portraits… hope there is stil time for this. Ok for the 3d full body image, but a more artistic face portrait is badly neded imho.

    #6180

    Red Key
    Member

    I would love to see some syron mounts

    A strange request but here you go:

    Syron Mount

    🙂 I know what you meant…

    #6181

    ryha
    Member

    OH MY GOSH! you don’t know how happy I am right now >.>;
    My favorite part of WOW was collecting mounts and having different mounts in general. This is such an amazing feature!!! thank you so much!

    #6182

    Seems like a fun addition. I’m only worried that one might end up with combinations that don’t fit conceptually but is forced to stick with it in order not to give up on hero power. An example would be playing with elves and only ever finding a hellhound mount. Though I admit this is purely an aesthetic consideration.

    How about having special synergies between mounts and heroes? For example the red raptor would provide a small bonus (like attack) if ridden by a draconian hero while a griffon might provide a similar bonus to good-aligned riders whereas a special unicorn mount would only truly shine with elves, etc.

    Also how about spells that summon magical mounts (with mana upkeep ofc.)?

    #6185

    Red Key
    Member

    I would also love to see this mount:

    Shark Mount

    (okay… this will be my last joke picture on this thread)

    #6186

    TheSpeaker
    Member

    Yes, yes, and yes! Oh wow, day made. Really wasn’t expecting this. At first I wasn’t sure about perpetually mounted leaders, but this adds flavor, and an it gives bonuses, so all in all an interesting mechanic. Cosmetic, yet not totally useless either. I am going to get my Sorcerer an Obsidian Wyvern. Or a Gryphon 😀 Give us the option to unequip mounts and go on foot as well so that we have a full spectrum and you have a deal 😛
    I have yet to see anything I really don’t like. Great job!

    #6187

    Fogcrow
    Member

    Yeah, I’d really like to have the option to dismount and walk too, especially if abilities like lance and charm animal are in.

    #6189

    Nice 🙂 very good idea !

    #6190

    Sordak, let’s all pretend you didn’t call AOW a “RTS”!! 😛

    #6191

    TheDio
    Member

    this is amaziiiiiiing! i love you narvek!

    #6192

    vota dc
    Member

    Seems a funny idea elf on boar and goblin on unicorn would be awesome.

    #6193

    Sordak
    Member

    i meant TBS

    but its too late to edit now.

    Realy this forum should allow edits.

    Also: can we have that pic with the Red Raptor in a bigger resolution?

    #6195

    Tomipapa
    Member

    Guys, way too awesome to say anything!

    #6197

    Sordak
    Member

    Oh yeah.

    I also want a Mammoth mount!

    #6200

    Piko LV
    Member

    This. Is. Awesome!

    Btw, do only I noticed the face of hero looks better than on the pre-alpha video?

    #6202

    It’s a totally different guy.

    #6203

    sheer awesome 😀

    im not 110% sold on all egg mounts being flyers though, i think i would prefer the egg to be a form of mini surprise

        White egg – airborn mount (gargoyles, gyro-copter, nimbus cloud, etc)
        Brown Egg – underground mount (snake, mole, etc)
        Green egg – forest mount (bear, stag, etc)
        Blue egg – water mount (manta, giant crab, etc) (some could hover on ground tiles with 1/4 less mps, 1/2 extra on water)
        Smoke egg – spectral mounts (ghost mount, er…. etc)
        Grey egg – desert mount (manticore, etc)
        Sparkling/Magical egg – summoned egg (can be any magical mount, extra suprize – from spiders to wyrm to chaos lord and maybe even silly sparkly vampires)
        etc

    i think this post needs more attention, raises an epic idea:

    How about having special synergies between mounts and heroes?
    For example the red raptor would provide a small bonus (like attack) if ridden by a draconian hero while a griffon might provide a similar bonus to good-aligned riders whereas a special unicorn mount would only truly shine with elves, etc.

    #6206

    Piko LV
    Member

    It’s a totally different guy.

    What you don’t say? 😛

    #6207

    Red Key
    Member

    The hero still looks ugly to me (and its not just the scar), but in his case maybe they were going for ugly.

    #6208

    ethan_allen
    Member

    Oh my 😮 this looks amazing ^.^

    Seems like a pretty cool addition.

    #6211

    Tomipapa
    Member

    How about having special synergies between mounts and heroes? For example the red raptor would provide a small bonus (like attack) if ridden by a draconian hero while a griffon might provide a similar bonus to good-aligned riders whereas a special unicorn mount would only truly shine with elves, etc.

    I dont dont know if its a good idea. People usually use the best combinations and if a raptor gives bonuses to a draconian hero then every draconian player will use that mount only(same for the elves/unicorn). Especially in MP where players seek for every little advantages. So lore wise it might be good, but if we want to keep the diversity and encourage people to try every combination then its not.

    #6216

    Draxynnic
    Member

    Nifty!

    So it seems as if there are essentially three tiers of mounts – the default for each race that you appear to get automatically, the enhanced versions (which we haven’t currently been given an acquisition method for), and flying mounts that you need to hatch from eggs.

    What I’d probably suggest as a compromise between being lore-appropriate and allowing for diversity would be to observe that many of the special mounts appear to essentially be upgraded versions of their regular mounts – Bleak Wargs for Goblins (sounds kinda Frostling-ish), Unicorn Sires for Elves, Red Raptors for Draconians, and so on. Thus, the best approach might be to allow cities of a race to produce the advanced mount associated with that race – that way you wouldn’t be inherently penalised for taking another advanced mount if you had access, but the advanced mount associated with your race will likely be the easiest for you to get access to.

    I am a bit disappointed that the old green and brown wyverns seem to be gone, though. ‘Drake’ might be a better term, which would immediately bring to mind the comparison between ice drakes and frost dragons in AoW2.

    #6217

    rob_james
    Member

    Nothing i can say here can tell you how much joy i feel.

    And this really helps me convince people to get it!

    #6218

    Gyor
    Member

    People asked for mounts and I thought it was unrealistic, that it would take to much.

    Shows what I know ;p

    For a Dark Elf feel I guess you can replace your unicorn with a spider or hellhound mount.

    The hellhound mount really stands out to me given the origins of hellhounds in AOW2, other mounts are basically just magical animals, but the Hellhounds are mortals souls twisted into demonic hound form.

    The Egg thing is very clever.

    Also we do know how the none egg magical mounts are gained, via quests and special sites, but you just get them, no egg.

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