TRIUMPH STUDIOS JOINS FORCES WITH PARADOX INTERACTIVE

Congratulations bo both you and Paradox – it seems like a fitting marriage. 😉

Congrats guys! Looking forward to the results of that collaboration. I think both companies make a great match. Bring on those new fruits of your hard labour! 🙂

I had a spider sense someone was sniffing around triumph. I was scared it was Sega but am relieved it’s Paradox.

This means more resources and hopefully better marketing from paradox.

It also means they’ve seen secret project X AND THEY LIKE IT!

If they like it though then it’s probably not stripper tycoon.

also for the interested people, found paradox side of the anouncement , pardox

• This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  overlorddarkslash.

Khelle wrote:

It saddens me greatly as Paradox is Ubisoft of strategy genre. I just hope they won’t force you to lower the quality bar you put for your games. I wish you best, hope you stay as independent as you can as one of their studios, and just… be the Triumph we love

Before you like most of the whiners on steam start to complain about paradox his “DLC policies”, you should look up information about the way the salary is paid to the developers and the amount of time they keep supporting their games.

its all pretty easy though, you want content for a game, and the support of an title to continue you have to generate an income, by paying a monthly fee like most MMORPGS or by buying DLC or expension packs.

the people at paradox chose to instead of puking out crappy coppy paste games like EA or ubisoft to focus on DLC heavy games you can buy mouthpiece at a time.

Congratulations!

Wow, did not see that coming.

It is an interesting match and, at least genre-wise, very fitting.
Paradox certainly has a wide, established audience and know their way around grander strategy titles.
If it were not for their, rather unwell, DLC policies, I’d toast to this match whole-heartedly.
Anyway, this means much ,more ressources and additional know-how for Triumph aswell as, possibly, a wider range of games from Paradox themself, as Triumph would be (GUESSWORK) license/grant their engine to them.
Looking at the compact FAQ on Paradox’s announcement made me giggle a bit, seeing how they already exspected questins like “Will this mean 123 day 1 DLC for future Triumph games” and such ilk 😀

Let’s see just how much of a “non-barrier” Paradox prove to be in the coming years, I remain vigilant but nonetheless excited.

Khelle wrote:

I have nothing against DLCs, I even believe AoW3 had too few of them and I would gladly buy few more. This doesn’t change the fact that Paradox is bad games company. I am not even mad at them because of their products being unifinished, lacking QA, suffering from bugs, or locking mechanics in the past. No. My main gripe with them is that they tend to create games that seem only as cash-grabs. They tend to create many, many features so they seem vast as ocean, so more people would buy it, but in fact all of them are deep as puddle. They don’t even fix that in DLCs or expansions, just add more things, so even more people would buy. Where’s the love for creating games? I tell you, they lost it already. See what a mess Stellaris or Hearts of Iron is. Quite a No Man’s Sky complex. I just hope, they won’t start forcing similar behaviour on Triumph

Is that so, they dont fix their games?

how do you explain them releasing every DLC with about 40% of the content as a free patch, making only the host need the DLC to play the full DLC expiriencefor all players in that game, and yesterday they actually released a free patch for HOI4 to fix a bunch of problems, Patch

i do have to say that HOI4 is not as deep as HOI3, but HOI3 is the other side of the spectrum, to many features that nobody is waiting for, making it to complex to learn, or even try to start mastering it.

HOI4 did suffer from some AI problems, but programing an game with an “smart” AI, that also has to act as the historlical country they need to represent. thats extremly hard and need time and patches to make perfect.

stelaris on the other hand is a fine game, but people where expecting to much. the game itself is extremly stable and only suffers from a little late game blandness.

comparing any game with no man sky is just an extreme insult, no man sky is just basicaly a scam, where they put stickers over the multiplayer tag in the game boxes. paradox didnt implement any feature they promised beforhand, people asumed it had to be in there because the last game also did have those features.

Oh and dont take this as an personal attack, i am just quite sick of people complaining about the pricing policy of paradox. without understanding the company as a whole, the stratagy of paradox is to not release a game each year with medium quality and brain damaging easy dificulty/ depth. but to release more complex and mentaly engaging games, that just need time to grow. to allow that grow and the continues tinkering to those titles they need an income (like any company) what they generate by DLC’s.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  overlorddarkslash.

are you sure you want to start this ruzenqures, i give you the opertunity to pull back now.

now, you dont give up lets get started.

ruzenqures wrote:

You have to understand that paradox release broken game in the first plane and after every DLC they broke the game and people are waiting for another “major fix” patch to play again. Also, usually that major fix doesn’t fix their first fuck up.

wrong conclusion, they dont break games “on purpose” programing AI is one of the hardest things in the game industry, every minor change can break it and it need a whole lot of expertise to fix this. it breaks after a DLC because the games are so AI heavy.

ruzenqures wrote:

Another thing they purposely making their games unplayable without certain DLCs e.g. Art of war’s changing occupy ownership, Common Sense’s development & technology changes making outside Europe unplayable. Cossacks certain AI abilities are locked with that DLC, without Mandate of Heaven Ming becomes OPiest shit in game history and ruins all the fun.

Another shortsighted and wrong conclusion, they need to make mayor changes to the game if they want people to not “complain that the DLC is to swallow”, not that this has any effect against the big whinny bitches called the “modern game community” if you make mayor changes things tend to get broke, and if they discover those broken combo’s it wont take many patches to fix those.

ruzenqures wrote:

Also, Paradox’s only success with publishing was Cities: Skylines (which is mostly bought because of the newest SimCity was pure garbage) and they only helped Pillars of Eternity for physical distribution, Pillars was already achieved success with Kickstarter.

They have quite some masterpieces that has been published by them, even more that has been developed, or are even still in development. you should take a look at their full game libary.

ruzenqures wrote:

They are trying to remove Steams regional prices and creating ridiculous prices e.g. Endless Space 2 full game is the same price for EU4 single DLC for most of the countries.

Please provide your evidence that support this claim on “masterminding steam in breaking europian laws”

ruzenqures wrote:

I can see that you are already a lost couse but at least stop lying to others!

A lost cause hmmm? and you even have the balls to accuse me of lying. you’re just a little kid throwing a tantum because he cant get his toys for free. and now attacking the big bad company for not giving him free stuff.

ruzenqures wrote:

P.S Stellaris fine? Haha AI doesnt even declare wars. What are you talking about!?

Well you can tell that to my poor race of warmongering space snails that has been living in constant war just after the release of stelaris.

Terrible news. Triumph is my favorite company. Paradox is my least favorite company.

Does this mean Triumph games will now be released years before they’re done and players will be nickel and dimed to death with unending DLC?

@ls35a did you now make an account just to bitch on paradox? Pathic.

LS35a wrote:

Does this mean Triumph games will now be released years before they’re done and players will be nickel and dimed to death with unending DLC?

Even if this is paradox development tactics (what by all means isnt the case) then still there are plenty of other third party games that has been published by paradox that are released just fine.

I’m always concerned when a publisher outright acquires a developer — it seems to me that in the end it never turns out well for the players — but I wish Triumph the very best and hope that this merger can be the exception to the rule.

Ok, everyone. I do not think it will be that bad.

How about we all just try and look it a bit more positively ?

I have played a lot of games from Paradox, and I have complete faith that they’re going to be great. All they are going to do is help triumph publish, like they said in their FAQ:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/paradox-interactive-acquires-triumph-studios-faq.1033106/

It might be true that some Paradox games have a few bugs on release, but they are really on point with always fixing them. They also have good communication with their audience.

But more importantly, they clearly said that this is mostly to help triumph sell more of their games, and it will mean extra resources for triumph. This is really beneficial for both triumph and paradox.

Even the DLC’s from paradox are well supported. There might be a lot of cosmetic DLC’s, but I always like them. They really help immerse me in the game. You really should not consider them like you would an expansion like from triumph,

overlorddarkslash wrote:

the people at paradox chose to instead of puking out crappy coppy paste games like EA or ubisoft to focus on DLC heavy games you can buy mouthpiece at a time.

I could not have said it better. Even if you miss gameplay DLC’s, the games are still good games, and it’s not like they bother you about it or anything. And their multiplayer sharing of DLC’s is even better than triumphs, like for example Crusader Kings 2 where you just have all DLC’s the game host has.

overlorddarkslash wrote:

LS35a wrote:

Does this mean Triumph games will now be released years before they’re done and players will be nickel and dimed to death with unending DLC?

Even if this is paradox development tactics (what by all means isnt the case) then still there are plenty of other third party games that has been published by paradox that are released just fine.

Sorry but it is exactly Paradox’s policy. Every game they release receives dozens of DLCs and said DLCs are generally of questionable quality.
It doesn’t work that way with games they only publish (Pillars of Eternity) but for games from studios they own (and sadly they now own Triumph) they are releasing dozens of DLCs. For Crusader Kings II you even have to pay so you are able transfer save to Europa Universalis IV. And said converter is extremely buggy.

Not to mention they’ve recently raised prices in countries where their games had lower, regional prices. After a massive outrage and many of their games receiving huge amount of negative reviews (enough to push ‘most recent reviews’ on Steam into negative) they’ve restored original prices.

Paradox way of publishing games is one of the most disgusting. They make infamous horse armor look good.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  Yarovit.