High Elve Reanimator too cheap

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  • #185797

    NuMetal
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    While reading a bit through the wiki I came across this: http://age-of-wonders-3.wikia.com/wiki/Necromancer

    The High Elve Reanimator is missing a price increase for getting Total Awareness.
    It definitely needs a price increase for this, I’d say +5gold, +5mana.

    Unless ofcourse the Aiki is not up to date here and they actually already do cost more. I just can’t check right now and don’t want to forget to mention it.

    #185803

    Dr_K
    Member

    Unless ofcourse the Aiki is not up to date here and they actually already do cost more. I just can’t check right now and don’t want to forget to mention it.

    There is no price increase for the High Elf Reanimator listed in the ToW.

    #185810

    NuMetal
    Member

    There is no price increase for the High Elf Reanimator listed in the ToW.

    Thanks for checking for me!

    In that case as I said I think they deserve a major price increase. Total Awareness greatly improves the survivability of a unit so +5+5 should be justified.

    #185815

    Narvek
    Keymaster

    It has extra Blight Weakness to compensate.

    #185816

    thabob79
    Member

    Maybe it’s because they are un-backstabable? or probably an error

    #185833

    Dr_K
    Member

    On the topic of oddly priced racial variants, why does the Human Deathbringer cost 150g 30m instead of 25m when the only change is Blight -> Spirit?

    Is there something I missed?

    #185849

    Gloweye
    Member

    Reanimator isn’t really a unit that you’re going to want in melee anyway. That severely limits the use to Total Awareness.

    #185924

    llfoso
    Member

    Total awareness is a fairly weak ability for any non-melee unit.

    Also, why do Tigran shamans get total awareness? That’s an elf ability isn’t it?

    #185936

    Motasa
    Member

    Also, why do Tigran shamans get total awareness? That’s an elf ability isn’t it?

    Was wondering the same thing. The Were-Bear ability alone warrants their higher price more than enough.

    #185940

    madmac
    Member

    <DIV class=d4p-bbt-quote-title>llfoso wrote:</DIV>
    <P>Also, why do Tigran shamans get total awareness? That’s an elf ability isn’t it?</P>

    <P>Was wondering the same thing. The Were-Bear ability alone warrants their higher price more than enough.</P>

    They don’t. That’s either an error with the wiki, or a bug.

    #185951

    Gloweye
    Member

    Dunno how it got there…maybe someone forgot to change an ability name.

    #185952

    Tibbles
    Member

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Motasa wrote:</div>

    <DIV class=d4p-bbt-quote-title>llfoso wrote:</DIV><br>
    <P>Also, why do Tigran shamans get total awareness? That’s an elf ability isn’t it?</P>

    <P>Was wondering the same thing. The Were-Bear ability alone warrants their higher price more than enough.</P>

    They don’t. That’s either an error with the wiki, or a bug.

    Yeah error on the wiki, they don’t have it in game

    #185955

    Bob5
    Member

    I must’ve missed that one when I updated Shaman earlier today on the wiki, I fixed it now.

    #186034

    Weltenreiter
    Member

    On the topic of oddly priced racial variants, why does the Human Deathbringer cost 150g 30m instead of 25m when the only change is Blight -> Spirit?

    Is there something I missed?

    They also get Spirit Breaking instead of Fatigue and Mind Rot at Veteran Medal. Reduces its tankiness a little bit and doesn’t help land the ghoul curse either, but helps wrecking face better once it has exploit despair.

    #186114

    Fenraellis
    Member

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dr_K wrote:</div>
    On the topic of oddly priced racial variants, why does the Human Deathbringer cost 150g 30m instead of 25m when the only change is Blight -> Spirit?

    Is there something I missed?

    They also get Spirit Breaking instead of Fatigue and Mind Rot at Veteran Medal. Reduces its tankiness a little bit and doesn’t help land the ghoul curse either, but helps wrecking face better once it has exploit despair.

    Also, a normal Death Bringer can(non-class buffs aside) only deal Spirit damage while utilizing Exploit Despair, and even then only at Elite rank. All Reanimators are able to benefit from Power Ritual to add +2/+2 Physical/Blight Melee strength to their attacks. The latter means that Human Reanimators can still easily deal triple-channel damage without requiring any ranks or non-class supplements.

    Spirit Breaking also means that all of their elemental damage channels(Blight/Spirit/Frost… Shock? Fire?) will deal enhanced damage, and applies a direct -600 Morale to the target, making Exploit despair more accessible. Not to mention enhancing the damage of other units in your army.

    #186118

    NuMetal
    Member

    It has extra Blight Weakness to compensate.

    Oh ok, I didn’t see that.

    Total awareness is a fairly weak ability for any non-melee unit.

    I would disagree. The AI does very well with flanking and especially with troops like the sprinting Scoundrels roaming the maps it really does increase the survivability by a lot.
    But not only in those cases. If you are fighting anything flying or phasing Total Awareness is what’ll keep the Reanimator alive. It makes the difference between seriously wounded and dead.

    #186120

    Gloweye
    Member

    They also get Spirit Breaking instead of Fatigue and Mind Rot at Veteran Medal. Reduces its tankiness a little bit and doesn’t help land the ghoul curse either, but helps wrecking face better once it has exploit despair.

    You don’t need exploit despair to wreck face with Spirit Breaking, though it does help a lot. Having 3 damage channels of which 2 are affected by the resistance loss is pretty good in itself(assuming you got Power Ritual for blight damage)

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