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  • #173187

    Zaskow
    Member

    Hi there!

    Now we have hot discussion about effectiveness of orc archers – actually, the worst archer in the game.

    In short, I say, that orc archers are overpriced units and lack really useful and powerful ability, which can compensate their range weakness. I think, razor projectiles isn’t enough.
    Some people agree, some disagree, so it’s interesting for me to hear official dev position about this.
    My suggestions to fix this issue are:
    – drop the price from 70 to 65 at least or even to 60, coz goblin darter is more powerful as archer and cost only 63 gold;
    – give them new ability, we told about ‘Inflict Crippling wounds’, if you think about their OPness with this ability, I suggest to give it on veteran.

    #173221

    Mythabril
    Member

    I’d propose to add Inflict Crippling Wounds on veteran but reduce base bow damage by another point to 5. So their main purpose would be to cause the status effects and not raw damage. Cost can then stay at 70.

    #173225

    Gloweye
    Member

    - drop the price from 70 to 65 at least or even to 60, coz goblin darter is more powerful as archer and cost only 63 gold;

    that’s because goblins have 10% discount as racial bonus, so it’s base price is the same 70 gold.

    As for the orc archers, you SHOULD only build them when you really need ranged. Ranged combat just not something orcs are good at, which is a nice thing IMO.

    #173239

    Zaskow
    Member

    I’d propose to add Inflict Crippling Wounds on veteran but reduce base bow damage by another point to 5. So their main purpose would be to cause the status effects and not raw damage. Cost can then stay at 70.

    Very bad idea. 5 damage is too low and makes orc archers senseless.

    that’s because goblins have 10% discount as racial bonus, so it’s base price is the same 70 gold.

    Base price for goblins never use in game. Anyway darters work out even 70 gold.

    #173245

    Epaminondas
    Member

    OMFG, here, too?

    I disagree with you here, too.

    #173259

    Tombles
    Keymaster

    There will always be a “Worst” unit, be it an Orc Archer, an Elven Swordsman or a Civic Guard. We can’t just buff them because they’re the worst, because then another unit would be the worst and we’d need to buff that too.

    I agree Orc Archers aren’t very good, but that’s just the way Orcs are. There is one thing I will do though, the idea was that the Orc Archer would be more capable of melee, which it still is fairly lacking in. I’ll give it a bit more HP and melee damage to fix that.

    #173264

    Zaskow
    Member

    There is one thing I will do though, the idea was that the Orc Archer would be more capable of melee, which it still is fairly lacking in. I’ll give it a bit more HP and melee damage to fix that.

    Ou, that’s good enough. Thanks!
    You can close this thread and that: http://ageofwonders.com/forums/topic/poor-orc-archers/

    #173266

    Epaminondas
    Member

    Wow, how come whining non-stop on a subject where everyone disagrees with you works for Zaskow but not me? 😉

    #173267

    Tombles
    Keymaster

    Because, at the end of the day, no-one’s opinion really matters except mine, and I am mad with power! 😀

    #173270

    Zaskow
    Member

    Wow, how come whining non-stop on a subject where everyone disagrees with you works for Zaskow but not me? 😉

    You are wrong, some people were agreed with me.
    And you whined not enough. 🙂

    #173313

    ninninnin
    Member

    forget a melee boost. just give all the orc supports and archers war cry too, they wanna punch things so bad.

    razorbows are so bad theyre good. nobody wants to waste time attacking them so they can just keep shooting all the way to gold rank and actual damage.

    #173328

    jb
    Member

    razorbows are so bad theyre good. nobody wants to waste time attacking them so they can just keep shooting all the way to gold rank and actual damage.

    Okay, that is pretty funny 🙂

    I have no problem with orc archers. They fill their intended role.

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