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As the old one is getting long, please use this, or the google group, or the Steam group, to report your games.
So as not to clog things up too much, report as such:
Player class and race
Player class and race
Who won
After action report (can be linked to a google doc).e.g:
Hatmage, Human, Sorcerer v
Fakir Faler, dwarf, RogueVictory Fakir
/sticky
Good luck to everybody!
The fiery Bruenor Battlehammer (Dwarven Warlord led by Ekarus)
faced the foppish Bond, Gold Bond (Dwarven Warlord led by Nodor).Bruenor’s monster hunters fell in large packs to the massed phoenixes and manticores that marched with Bond’s assistance straight through the first of Buenor’s Throne cities and when they landed on the doorstep of his second, with his leader in the abyss, Bruenor surrendered.
Nodor was victorious.
as per BBB request
Yesterday Kireruad’s Dragon Mast…er i mean Tigran warlord defeated cdurgin’s Halfling monster hunter herder er…i mean warlord.
Sorry, fixed version here:
I’ll be closing down the Steam and Google groups in a week. The intent behind those was to catch as many players as possible, but the effect is that I’m running around chasing people and patrolling 3 different websites and stalking people on Steam.
Not ideal.
From now on, everything goes through one website.
So, tweaked website.
Please give feedback there. It turns out weebly lets you have a forum, which means this thread can be closed down and things can be coordinated centrally.
This isn’t to take away from this forum by any means, but to make my job slightly easier.
Prodigal Sun, Human, Theocrat v
Fenraellis, High Elf, Arch DruidVictory Fenraellis
Quick summary: 108 turn match, pretty epic game. AD late game is insanely strong after recent buffs and Human Theo reminds a lot of Goblin Rogue v Necromancer. Well fought game with lots of action and dead bodies. Heading to bed after 7h non-stop match…
It was a grueling monster, and here is my ‘flavorful’ report.
Well played, Prodigal.
It was a grueling monster, and here is my ‘flavorful’ report.
Well played, Prodigal.
Nice matchreport and it gave me a good idea of a multiplayer match.
Obviously behaviour the AI can never copy. Seems you guys had a lot of fun!
I was under the impression druids weren’t very populair online, but this game was won by a druid. Nice!Gaslov Human Warlord vs Sayl Goblin Warlord
Gaslov won.
Match Summary:
I’ll do my best to recall the game. Unfortunately, the event history only lists the events of the last 3 turns for some reason.
Map was one large continent with lots of water on the edges. I started in the north end of the middle of the map. Map at final turn can be seen here. I started with a knight, 2 cavalry, 2 pikes and a militia. I had a cave entrance just north of me that I sent one cavalry to explore. My first settlement was to the west (Velune) that captured a trading post, mine, and fire node. When clearing the trading post, I lost my knight to autocombat which hurt. I continued exploring south and settled Mornholm and Ullion and shortly after Linghton.
Our first encounter was underground where my cavalry stumbled upon one of his goblin infantry. I declared war and dispatched it. That same turn, I was able to leverage some berries to keep exploring. I think I ran into Zahm, but if I recall it was occupied by neutrals? It must have been a vassal. I didn’t ask questions and kept moving him north where I ran into another goblin warrior that I killed (Valp wasn’t founded yet). My cavalry scout met his death upon discovering the archon city of Kragak. Later to note, I witnessed that he lost a stack against Kragak with one of my zephyr birds. Independents are annoying.
I kept scouting in all directions and teching up to horse archers. Meanwhile, I found good sites and settled Kenton then Westrigge. Kenton for the gold and Westrigge for the crystal tree and heart of the glades (for bleed). I tried to clear the cyrstal tree with my leader and 3 heroes and LOST. That was pretty burtal since it told me it was a likely victory (damn autocombat). His scouts found Ullion and Westrigge. I killed Ullion scout with my garrison, but only had one civic guard at Westrigge at the time. His scout actually won that battle but I got him later.
He invaded Ullion with two heroes and a bunch of butchers. He found the defense at Ullion too strong and continued north towards Mornholm. I pincered his forces midway.
Force 1: Zephyr Bird, 2 horse archers, 2 monster hunters, 1 civic guard. Force 2: 4 civic guards and 2 horse archers. His force: 2 heroes, 3 butchers, 1 berserker. The battle began with him moving his troops towards force 2. He berserked one of the militia so I moved my horse archers around to try to connect with my other army. I had three other militia move together towards one of his butchers. He moved his heroes in to attack the militia. He killed one of the horse archers. I berserked one of his butchers which killed one of the heroes. My civic guard ensnared a butcher with the other damaging it. The berserked butcher finished off his friend for me. I then ensnared that butcher and killed him with my civic guards. Force 1 finally caught up to the battle to mop up and kill the second hero.
I founded Dorevar for the arcane vault + spring of life, Linden for gold, and Taleet for the heart of blight. I was really happy to get this because his archon city of Cair Dreth and his goblin city of Bagag Jun were on blighted terrain. I was pumping out Knights from Westrigge, horse archers from Dorevar, and Manicore riders from my throne. Sadly, none of these saw battle.
I had built many armies of monster hunters and horse archers. I moved two stacks of these underground at Kenton. 1 stack attempted to snipe Bagag Jun (I lost that battle as it was well defended). I had 6 stacks launch an invasion at Cair Dreth. He intercepted one of them and killed it. I had two more stacks behind them, though. He retreated out of the middle back to Cair Dreth where I met him with three of my 5 stacks. I think he pulled troops back from Cair Dreth to Bagag Jun which made the battle at Cair Dreth easier for me. I’m not entirely sure why he did that. I had three stacks engage his two stacks. I didn’t suffer many loses there and moved towards Bagag Jun. With four stacks, I engaged his three. Bagag Jun had stone walls.
His forces consisted of swarm darters, untouchables, two heroes, a few phalanxes, and a couple of blight doctors. I had one hero and a fairly even mix of horse archers and monster hunters with one or two civic guards. The battle essentially was his forces lined on the walls and my forces lined up below the walls. I used seeking arrows where appropriate. He would counter with blind or dispel. I prioritized killing the swarm darters. I hit his left side with chain lightning from my hero and mopped that up pretty quickly. However, he did defeat my forces on that side with reinforcements from the center of the castle. I defeated his right side and moved those forces towards the middle, with my middle forces moving to the left side to kill his heroes. I finally breached the walls and finished off the remaining phalanxes.
On turn 61, and four hours later, he surrendered with the loss of Bagag Jun.
That’s amazing. Well done.
How come everyone plays Warlord? Just curious 🙂
Sorry, fixed version here:
<iframe width=”625″ height=”352″ src=”http://www.youtube.com/embed/Sh40EUqnrRs?feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>I laughed really hard, but actually, according to the polls, people see Elves as the strongest race.
I laughed really hard, but actually, according to the polls, people see Elves as the strongest race.
As for MP, people are wrong. Look how common humans and dwarves.
the poll didn’t ask strongest, but favorite. so there is no contradiction.
the poll didn’t ask strongest, but favorite. so there is no contradiction.
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll331576x8f0a5aC1-12
Two more questions were added later. 56% of the players believe the Elves are the strongest, 6% – Dwarves.
Yes, the sample is not that big (about 40 players). Still, such overwhelming majority.I think the early autocalc fights favor dwarves due to the extra HP and defense.
Elves still win in the end, but for dealing with turn 20 rush potential you don’t want to have lost a lot to bad autocalcs.
So I would argue that tournament rules and the new upgraded underground (people trying the new shiny thing) are driving the host of dwarves.
So I would argue that tournament rules and the new upgraded underground (people trying the new shiny thing) are driving the host of dwarves.
Yet to be determined if that’s a good or a bad thing. So far, out of 14 games played (i.e. 28 possible picks) there have been 7 Dwarf Choices, and 4 victories, 3 of which were against other Dwarves…
Not quite a Dwarf wash but respectable showing (4 out of 14 victories).
That’s why rule 7 was amended btw, to encourage diverse play.
How come everyone plays Warlord? Just curious
Name a hard counter to Warlord? They rely on troops, but are not as vulnerable to being countered by a bad match-up like a Necromancer facing a very likely loss vs. a Theocrat.
BBB , what happened to the tournament Layout ?
Yesterday I was In the Second Round awaiting the winner of Garresh vs MILFTHUNDER
Now I’ve been relegated ?
Im not super upset or anything but I did like the draw that I had , and am curious as to why or what was the cause for the changes ?
@ Seer, I thought I sent you a message on Steam?
Late entry, which pushed Gabriel into the first round. However, he, Abed and Ayenara were the only ones guaranteed to start in the 2nd round.
That meant you, Dagoth, Mental or Ludomancer to get put into the 1st bracket, or “relegated” as you put it, and you were literally the 1st name on that list.
There won’t be any more late entries because resetting the brackets means I have to input all the results, and as more results come in it gets progressively more annoying.
So, no more late entries, unless Jomungur shows up ;).
Look at it this way, you haven’t been relegated, rather your randomly selected headstart has been removed.
AfroAttack/Yuriohs – Rogue/Tigran
TheInternetJanitor – Human/DreadnoughtThe InternetJanitor won.
Two more questions were added later. 56% of the players believe the Elves are the strongest, 6% – Dwarves.
The tournament shows completely different results. If Elves are so strong, why then we saw only a few time of Elf leaders in tournament?
I laughed really hard, but actually, according to the polls, people see Elves as the strongest race.
The votes asked for the strongest class and race in general. But the tournament is MP, and MP games generally autocalc non-PvP tactical combat. So the disparity between the poll and the tournament choices are not at all surprising.
I think the early autocalc fights favor dwarves due to the extra HP and defense.
Elves still win in the end, but for dealing with turn 20 rush potential you don’t want to have lost a lot to bad autocalcs.
So I would argue that tournament rules and the new upgraded underground (people trying the new shiny thing) are driving the host of dwarves.
Exactly. Balance in MP and balance in SP are two different things; also right now I’d likely argue that Dwarf underground income bonus is still too overwhelming.
I think the early autocalc fights favor dwarves due to the extra HP and defense.
Elves still win in the end, but for dealing with turn 20 rush potential you don’t want to have lost a lot to bad autocalcs.
So I would argue that tournament rules and the new upgraded underground (people trying the new shiny thing) are driving the host of dwarves.
Exactly. Balance in MP and balance in SP are two different things; also right now I’d likely argue that Dwarf underground income bonus is still too overwhelming.
I don’t think the gold is an issue per se. I think it’s the ability to build in a morale penalty inducing environment for most foes. What I haven’t seen is a dwarf builder vs. a human builder. I think that would tell you who has the better economic advantage. I suspect goblin tier 3 rush strategies would kill the dwarf builder strat.
Two more questions were added later. 56% of the players believe the Elves are the strongest, 6% – Dwarves.
The tournament shows completely different results. If Elves are so strong, why then we saw only a few time of Elf leaders in tournament?
Right now, there are 8 times Dwarves were picked, 3 games with them are mirror. The one against Elves was lost.
So far, there were only 3 games with Elves (all Druids lol) and 2 were won by them.
By the way, Tigran are also very popular. They were picked 6 times.Elves still win in the end, but for dealing with turn 20 rush potential you don’t want to have lost a lot to bad autocalcs.
What the hell does that mean?
Elves still win in the end, but for dealing with turn 20 rush potential you don’t want to have lost a lot to bad autocalcs.
What the hell does that mean?
Your starting elven army is likely to have phasing cavalry. The AI will phase the Cav in hit the enemy unit once and then be swarmed by the pikemen and killed.
A few rounds later, your infantry will meet theirs and now outnumbered because your Cav has already died, will suffer more casualties than they would if a human was playing them and perhaps lose.
Losing the 7 troops you started with early can mean that when your enemy shows up with his starting troops and some extras he built or found along the way you can easily be defending your throne with 1-2 units vs. 12+ This is not usually a recipe for success.
The AI will phase the Cav in hit the enemy unit once and then be swarmed by the pikemen and killed.
AI likes to Phase very much. Especially when unnecessary. The simplest decision will be start Phase on cooldown, but this will be nerf at all…
Guys, I am kindly asking you to stop this right now. Have a look at the topic: “Tournament reports”. Stay on-topic.
Please open another thread in case you want to discuss anything else.
Keejchen Human Theocrat
Stormwind Dwarf DreadnoughtKeejchen won. This was a grueling 8 hour bloodfest.
Having many friendships and many towns trumped Cannons with seeker this time.
I struck first in a big battle (my 3 full stacks against 4 of my opponents stacks, with about the same total number of units) and won a town taking very little damage, razing it to the ground (probably an error, in retrospect I think I had sufficent range forces to defend a return strike).
Disaster struck for me as I approached a second town, this one a vassal, with a surprisingly large defense. As I wrapped my forces around the town, a 6 high random undead stack attacked one end (2 stacks) and decimated my forces. Following through with the attack on the town I lost even more.
In the meantime, my opponent was adding new towns, being very friendly with everyone. Keejchen thus had a larger economy despite my early military victories. Keejchen seemed to win all the empire quests, most disturbingly “hepatopia”, at which point I realized I was lost.
In the 8th hour of combat I conceded after a sync error, our 3rd. Congrats to the winner…well played!
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